Rndballref
20 Years Experience
Chicago, IL
Male, 60
For twenty years I officiated high school, AAU and park district basketball games, retiring recently. For a few officiating is the focus of their occupation, while for most working as an umpire or basketball referee is an avocation. I started ref'ing to earn beer money during college, but it became a great way to stay connected to the best sports game in the universe. As a spinoff, I wrote a sports-thriller novel loosely based on my referee experiences titled, Advantage Disadvantage
If A is standing out of bounds, and a ball that was in bounds touches him before hitting the floor out of bounds, A is considered to have caused the ball to go out of bounds.
Other than technical fouls, there are no free throws awarded when a team with possession of the ball commits a foul.
If it is in the possession of the player committing the foul, then it is a player control foul (NO free throws). If a player's team has possession and a foul is committed by a player on that team without the ball it is a team control foul (and again, NO free throws).
A team or player control foul is never awarded free throws, and it makes no difference if the team is in bonus.
Also, you might be asking if a charge is the only player control foul possible? The answer is no. A player with the ball might push, trip, hold, etc a defensive player and an offensive player without the ball might set an illegal screen, push, hold, etc in addition to charging. All of this is relative to NFHS rules.
Placing the ball on the floor repeatedly denies the other team the opportunity to grab the ball and run. Here's how it should be handled. After the second occurence, the ref should stop the game and issue a "delay of game warning" against the team, and ask the scorer to register a warning in the book.. If they do it again, the offending player should be charged with a technical foul.
According to theriches.com beginning NBA referees make $150,000 and senior officials make up to $550,000. In every game, one official is designated as the "referee" and the others are "officials". In NFHS, the referee has certain additional duties such as picking who will toss jump balls, giving pre-game instructions etc.. But the "referee" is not supposed to overrule the other two officials. I suspect that in the NBA, senior officials might have additional duties such as travel arrangements, meetings, training, rule advisories, etc.
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There is no provision in the rules for an official to overrule another, and there is no prohibition against it. One of the officials is designated as the referee, the others are umpire 1 and umpire 2. The referee has to settle all disputes not envisioned by the rule book. As I have said before, I always wanted my partners to approach me if they disagreed with my call and allow me to change my own call if my partner created doubt or if they clarified the play for me. But I always wanted the right to not change my call as well. By the original caller changing his call he can explain it to the coach adversely affected. Good referees have this discussion before the game and talk about how they are going to handle a disagreement on a call. Generally, this should not happen too often because each referee has a specific area to watch and while there is some overlap calls usually fall within one ref's primary responsibility area.
I believe that is a made up rule. The only way to construe a violation would be to consider it unsportsmanlike, but that is a stretch. The way to handle it is if there is a dead ball after the team was counting approach the coach and ask if the coach considers counting in that way sporting. Maybe he will stop them, but as a ref I would not call a foul.
Let's suppose that a player takes two hands on top of the ball and pushes it to the ground - double dribble. You see this sometimes when a player falls and use the ball to break the fall. What if a player takes one hand and pushes the ball to the floor ? That is an interrupted dribble until the player picks it up, or can continue the dribble with one hand (like the Globetrotters). If instead, he picks up the ball, he has used up the dribble and must pass or shoot from there.
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