Zebra
Somewhere in, NJ
Male, 62
I've officiated football for over 30 years, now in my 26th on the college level. I've worked NCAA playoffs at the Division II and III level. In addition, I've coached at the scholastic level and have been an educator for over 35 years. I have no interest whatsoever in being an NFL official! Ever!
I'm not sure what the touching of a player has to do with this. Yes, a play has to end in order to call time out. If a player isn't touched - downing him in the NFL - but he doesn't get up, he's in essence giving himself - and the play - up (like a QB sliding). So, not specifically knowing the NFL philosophy, the play has ended if the receiver doesn't get up and the Saints could call TO as soon as the officials blow it dead.
Well, Ricky, I was going to be snarky and say something appropriately mean spirited, but I decided to just answer the question.
No.
Until the chains are set, it is still the interval between the last play and the next snap. So you mark off the penalty before you technically declared the first down. Therefore you set the chains after you mark off the penalty.
Run ended in the endzone, foul occured behind the spot. Mark off from the spot of the foul - the 20 yard line.
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I think they erred on that enforcement. They got the yardage on the PAT in order to go for two. There should not have been yardage on the KO.
Personal fouls don't offset. Dead ball fouls all get enforced in the order of occurence. They would not offset since, by "definition", they are fouls that occurred after a play - they should not have happened.
Not sure of specifics of this game (I really don't recall it) but that would come under rules covering unfair acts, in which case a referee could take any action he considers equitable (NCAA Rule 9-2-3). I don't see how you could ignore the fouls.
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